Good bye Beltring / Hello Hellfire Corner 2013

[Fursty Ferret]

Gerüchte über ein Ende der W&P Show in Beltring gab es ja schon immer, aber diesmal scheint es mehr zu sein als ein Gerücht

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.ph ... w-Location*

Wobei der neue Veranstaltungsort ein paar Kilometer näher wäre
Bin mal gespannt ob sich das so bestätigt...

[Klempnerpaule]

Und ich war noch nie da

[Fursty Ferret]

Da hast Du definitiv was verpasst
Aber scheinbar gibt es ja eine Nachfolgeveranstaltung. Obwohl ich glaube daß er schwer werden wird, an das "Beltringfeeling" heranzukommen...

[private]

wie oft ist das den noch oder ist das kommendes jahr das letzte mal??

[Fursty Ferret]

Wenn die Gerüchte sich bewahrheiten, war dieses Jahr das letzte Mal !!

[ferretmk1]

Einmal musste es ja so kommen.
Es wird nie wieder so werden wie es war. Die Maßstäbe sind sehr hoch und die Nachfolgeveranstaltung muss in ziemlich große Fußstapfen treten.

Eigentlich reicht es auch wenn es nur halb so gut wird wie das Original, das ist dann schon besser als alles andere.
Und bei sanitären Anlagen ist auch noch Potenzial gewesen.
Auf Facebook geht es auch schon los mit den Diskussionen.

[Fursty Ferret]

Und bei sanitären Anlagen ist auch noch Potenzial gewesen

Die zu übertreffen dürfte nicht schwer werden

[rti]

Hallo Kameraden,

das mit den sanitären Anlagen war sicher auch auf die parallel stattfindenden olympischen Spiele in London zurückzuführen, wo sicher auch einiges an "Töpfen" gebraucht wurde. Das olympische Komitee hätte aber auch auf uns mehr Rücksicht nehmen können und die Spiele zwei Wochen verschieben, oder? Wenig sensibel, die Typen...

Auf der offiziellen Webseite habe ich (noch) kein Update zum neuen Standort gefunden - einfach mal abwarten, was da so passiert. Ein anderer Standort wird aber mit Sicherheit nichts an der generellen Auslegung der Show ändern.

Schade fand ich dieses Jahr, dass viele OL-Nutzer, die man aus den Beiträgen kennt und/oder mit denen man sich schon per pn unterhalten hat, dort nicht kennengelernen konnte, weil das Gelände sehr weitläufig ist und man "kein Gesicht" dazu hat. Einen Kameraden auf dem Medway Field, wo wir auch standen, hat unsere Tochter durch Zufall wiedererkannt und uns dahin geführt - das war am dritten Tag! Einen anderen haben wir durch Zufall auf dem Flohmarkt dort getroffen. Vielleicht kann man ja mal diskutieren, ob nicht vielleicht an einem der Tage ein gemeinsamer Treffpunkt in irgendeinem der Partyzelte abgestimmt werden kann.

Grüße und mit der Hoffnung auf die Fortführung dieses Events,
Rainer

[krankenhausen]

Neue website läuft noch nicht:

http://www.warandpeacerevival.co.uk

aber ein Poster gibt es schon:



PRESSRELEASE
30 November 2012
WAR AND PEACE RACES TO HELLFIRE CORNER!

Rex Cadman is delighted to announce the launch of his brand new show; The War and Peace Revival, which will be held at RAF Westenhanger, Folkestone Racecourse near Hythe, Kent on 17-21July 2013. Of this exciting new venture, Rex said: “after celebrating the 30th anniversary of the War and Peace Show, we thought it was time to draw a line under the event and move forward with a new event in a new venue, creating something exciting and fresh. My years of experience with The War and Peace Show have given me the understanding of what does and doesn’t work, so the new show will be even better!”Rex is best known for his former show, The War and Peace Show, which was at The Hop Farm in Kent for 25 years and celebrated its 30th anniversary this year. Rex organised this with his team from 1989, taking it from a small club show started by the Invicta Military Vehicle Preservation Society (IMPS) with just 100 vehicles in 1982, to the world’s biggest military vehicle event.The Racecourse location was chosen due to its unique relevancy to the new military and vintage event. Right in the heart of Hellfire Corner, so named due to the battering it received during the Battle of Britain in 1940,the area is steeped in military history. The Racecourse itself was used as part of Operation Fortitude (South) during WW2 - the great deception designed to fool the Germans into believing the D-Day landings would be in Calais, not Normandy. Inflatable aircraft were set up along the racecourse to make it look like an active airfield and in 1944 660Squadron used the racecourse to practice operations with local army units,prior to leaving for France three months later. President of the IMPS, James Baxter, said: “This new show, in a fantastic location, is a very exciting development. The permanent facilities, such as bars,restaurants, etc provided at the racecourse will greatly enhance the experience of the show, for both visitors and exhibitors alike. Rex Cadman is moving military history events to a new level which cannot be matched anywhere else,and IMPS is delighted to support this new venture. Visitors to the new show will be able to see many of the expected attractions including living history, military vehicles, meeting WW2 and other veterans, vintage civilian entertainment, trade stands, celebrities, battle re-enactments and military models. The first War and Peace Revival will be held at Folkestone Racecourse near Hythe, Kent CT21 4HX (justoff the M20 Junction 11) from 17-21 July 2013. See http://www.thewarandpeacerevival.co.uk

[krankenhausen]

Hier ist die neue WPR Location, nah am Meer und nah am Tunnel:

http://goo.gl/maps/emWEP

[Fursty Ferret]

Hauptsache es gibt auch wieder ein Beertent

[rti]

Hauptsache es gibt auch wieder ein Beertent

mit 'n lauwarmen Halben für ein Vermögen...

[Britsarmy]

....... und schon ist die Website mit Leben gefüllt

Und wie sieht es aus? Wer will 2013 hinfahren??
Grüße

[rti]

Hoi Werner,

ich auf jeden Fall!

Grüße,
Rainer

[ferretmk1]

@werner.
Daa sin ma dabei. Da kann ich in 30 Jahren wenigstens sagen, dass ich auf jeder Veranstaltung in Folkestone war.

Neu von der website: mit hintergründen und rex wirbt gleich wieder um verständnis für die schlechten sanitäranlagen.

News

04/12/12

It is reassuring to see the amount of talk about War and Peace, which underlines the incredible affection this show is held in. It has been a major part of mine and Barbara's lives for 25-years and has given us some of our best memories, some of our toughest times and introduced us to some amazing and wonderful people. Many of these people we are delighted and proud to be able to call friends and it is only thanks to our involvement in War and Peace that we have these people in our lives.

But after 25-years at the Hop Farm we sadly regret that the relationship between both management teams has broken down irreparably. This year we were left with the strong feeling that we were constantly working at odds with the Hop Farm management and that what we wanted to do with the Show was completely opposite to what they wanted. I had such a fondness for The Hop Farm - having been an owner with my close friends Brent and Fiona Pollard for a number of years - that it is doubly sad for me.

It had been felt by many for a couple of years that the Show was becoming a little staid, so after a summer of considerable thought and discussion with my team, we came to the conclusion that it was time for a new start at a new venue. It was time to close The War and Peace Show that we all knew and loved and move on.

Once this decision was made, the entire War and Peace team - including both the office staff and Officials - felt rejuvenated and excited at the prospect of building something new, something even better. We all loved and enjoyed the War and Peace Show so it was important to keep this momentum and maintain the incredible feeling of community that it brought. It was a lengthy, exhausting and worrying few months finding a new location - after all this had to be right. We had so many “non-negotiable” needs that the list of locations available was all too short. We've visited fields and event sites, talked to the military and estate agents, and were despairing of ever finding the right location. We found one site we really liked, only to have our ideas dashed when the owner changed his mind.

Then we found Folkestone Racecourse. We tried not to become too excited - there was so much riding on this that we couldn't get it wrong. The permanent facilities are much better than those at the Hop Farm - with plenty of toilets, a large restaurant with a grandstand view of the show ground, several bars and lots of lovely grass and tarmac. The acreage available to us is greater than we use at the Hop Farm and with many acres of adjoining farmland, expansion is always possible. There are several entrances to get various types of vehicles in and out - public, trade and vehicle exhibitors will each have their own entrances - and there is even an accommodation block for our Officials! For our Living History participants - there is plenty of space and we'll be able to have an area for those that need to dig and those that don't.

The local area has such an enormous military history that it is perfect for the new War and Peace Revival. Right in Hellfire Corner, ten minutes up the road is Ashford, famed as a WW2 transport hub. RAF Lympne is practically around the corner and the Racecourse site itself was better known as RAF Westenhanger during WW2. Ten miles in the opposite direction is Folkestone, from where millions of soldiers departed for the battlefields of WW1 France, and further along the marshes is the proposed location of Hitler's Operation Sea Lion invasion of Britain, while Dover, Ramsgate, Canterbury, St Margaret's Bay and many more historic locations are just a short drive away. With the decision made on the site and designs being started, a last minute name change gave us our new show, and The War and Peace Revival was born. The websites were bought, Twitter feeds acquired and Facebook name changed.

Meanwhile talks were continuing with people including the local council, who is very supportive of our new show. Knowing the impact our old show had on Paddock Wood and the surrounding area, they are keen to help us with new venture - this will be a very positive step in Shepway's regeneration programme and we are delighted to also have the full support of Kent County Council and Visit Kent.

This move to the new venue and launch of the new show gives us the opportunity to introduce aspects that we've never had before with the old show. I will be drawing upon our Officials to help with this and in fact we've already started with some major plans. There were many things we wanted to introduce but weren't able to at the Hop Farm due to budget issues or structural layout. For example we've wanted to increase our Vintage element for some time so now we have the chance. Working with Terry Elliott we will be introducing a Vintage Village which will cater for the more glamorous side of our audience! Home Front re-enactment will be another expanding area, showing the impact of war on civilians and the breadth of roles they were required to fulfil.

Of course we know that the location is key for both our visitors and exhibitors alike. From the Dartford Tunnel it is just another 24 miles further on for visitors north of there, or 28 miles further from Clackett Lane on the M25 - and apart from the last mile its motorway all the way! The amount of time it would take you to get the 9 ½ miles from J4 of the M20 to the Hop Farm you would be nearly to Ashford. The access is far simpler than at the Hop Farm, with the new venue being just one mile off junction 11 of the M20 and having ample parking. For rail travellers there is a mainline train station right next door - in fact you could hop over the fence and be straight into the showground - not that we recommend it! And of course it is much closer for visitors from the continent. The Channel Tunnel Terminus and Eurostar are just 10-minutes away and the ports of Folkestone and Dover are also very close. Our friends at DFDS Seaways have confirmed they will extend the special War and Peace travel rates to the new War and Peace Revival.

Now that we're doing this on our own, the responsibility will stop firmly with War and Peace for toilets and showers. No longer will we be reliant on our venue for facilities that were often sub-standard. However we do need visitors and exhibitors to respect this and these facilities and treat them as you would your facilities at home.

Our team is totally committed to bringing our loyal visitors and exhibitors an exciting new show, which will be as well-organised as my former show. The entire team is behind this new event and we are all looking forward to it and to welcoming our friends both old and new to this new show - and hopefully reaching a wider audience at our amazing new venue.

With its closure, we're now in talks with a publishing company to produce a 30th anniversary book to chart the history of The War and Peace Show.

Updates will be posted regularly going forwards from here. We realise that without you there is no show and we want to ensure that we include you in everything we're doing between now and July. If you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask them - you know our email addresses and phone numbers.

So on behalf of Barbara, Georgie, Andrea, Alison, Paul and all the Officials, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your support and for bearing with us over the next year while we move forwards with this new show. Wishing you and your family a very happy Christmas, a joyful New Year - and an incredible visit to the brand new War and Peace Revival!

Best wishes
Rex Cadman